Comments on: Recruiting Gone Crazy http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/ Covering Michigan Football and other sports in depth, with a focus on the the year long process of recruiting. Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:22:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1151 Westy81585 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:29:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1151 You said yourself it was 20+ "incidents" with police. That doesn't mean 20+ arrests. And I'm willing to wager you can find this stuff at just about any university. <br/><br/>It wasn't a rules violation, and even if it was it would be a pretty retarded rule (which even you could agree too). I wouldn't be crying wolf if a bunch of Michigan players had gone to see Pryor at a BBall game. <br/><br/>Gobucks is right, you're jealous. Man up. You said yourself it was 20+ “incidents” with police. That doesn’t mean 20+ arrests. And I’m willing to wager you can find this stuff at just about any university.

It wasn’t a rules violation, and even if it was it would be a pretty retarded rule (which even you could agree too). I wouldn’t be crying wolf if a bunch of Michigan players had gone to see Pryor at a BBall game.

Gobucks is right, you’re jealous. Man up.

]]> By: Mike http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1150 Mike Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:56:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1150 Just like you westy. Same thing youve been doing all along. Proof appears and you do your best to trivialize it. Notice at the top of that article, that it says it omits traffic violations. I never said there were murderers and rapists on the team. Fact is, there were 20+ arrests, so according to this statement;<br/><br/>"if you had 20+ proven arrests, we would be Thug U, not Miami."<br/>-westy81585 1/31/2008<br/><br/>you are not the new Thug U.<br/><br/>And gobucks, its not a jealousy thing. I root for OSU all but one week per year. Its just that you have some asinine fans that just needed to be proven wrong. In no way am I trying to bring down a good program. The NCAA has never, and probably wont call me for advice. Im just trying to bring down a couple of arrogant fans who dont ever come with facts to support their argument, then try to trivialize things when proven wrong. My statements have in no way been aimed at the masses, just a couple people. Just like you westy. Same thing youve been doing all along. Proof appears and you do your best to trivialize it. Notice at the top of that article, that it says it omits traffic violations. I never said there were murderers and rapists on the team. Fact is, there were 20+ arrests, so according to this statement;

“if you had 20+ proven arrests, we would be Thug U, not Miami.”
-westy81585 1/31/2008

you are not the new Thug U.

And gobucks, its not a jealousy thing. I root for OSU all but one week per year. Its just that you have some asinine fans that just needed to be proven wrong. In no way am I trying to bring down a good program. The NCAA has never, and probably wont call me for advice. Im just trying to bring down a couple of arrogant fans who dont ever come with facts to support their argument, then try to trivialize things when proven wrong. My statements have in no way been aimed at the masses, just a couple people.

]]> By: gobucks1999 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1149 gobucks1999 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:04:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1149 Lets face it here Mike, you're jealous. OSU has had a GREAT run the last 5 or so years, and looks like they're going to continue. Now to make matters worse, they're pulling in the #1 recruit, a QB, instead of Michigan. You're jealous, and you're pulling at whatever you can to try to bring down a good program. But unfortunately for you, none of it's true. You're trying to make little stuff into big stuff, and nothing into something. <br/><br/>Get over it, Michigan will be back eventually. Lets face it here Mike, you’re jealous. OSU has had a GREAT run the last 5 or so years, and looks like they’re going to continue. Now to make matters worse, they’re pulling in the #1 recruit, a QB, instead of Michigan. You’re jealous, and you’re pulling at whatever you can to try to bring down a good program. But unfortunately for you, none of it’s true. You’re trying to make little stuff into big stuff, and nothing into something.

Get over it, Michigan will be back eventually.

]]> By: westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1148 westy81585 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:02:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1148 19 incidents not all involving arrests. Why if I didn't know any better I'd say we have 20 college kids engaged in some typical shenanigans (at worst). I got pulled over a few weeks ago for no front license plate, technically that would make this list. But I'd hardly consider it a crime. In fact most of these involve alcohol. That's a huge infraction right there, you're right. We better call up the NCAA and let them know they're missing a huge college drinking story here at OSU. 19 incidents not all involving arrests. Why if I didn’t know any better I’d say we have 20 college kids engaged in some typical shenanigans (at worst). I got pulled over a few weeks ago for no front license plate, technically that would make this list. But I’d hardly consider it a crime. In fact most of these involve alcohol. That’s a huge infraction right there, you’re right. We better call up the NCAA and let them know they’re missing a huge college drinking story here at OSU.

]]> By: Mike http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1147 Mike Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:37:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1147 Oh, and like I said before, Chris Webber was the only one of the fab 5 to take money. But good job bringing up something from 12 years ago. Oh, and like I said before, Chris Webber was the only one of the fab 5 to take money. But good job bringing up something from 12 years ago.

]]> By: Mike http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Mike Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:29:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1146 http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20050526/football/2145095.html<br/><br/>That link takes you through may 2005.<br/>There are 19 incidents there involving 20 players. Not all are arrests though<br/><br/>Then theres Henton Sept - 07<br/>Alex Boone - April 06<br/><br/>Theres a dead period from may 05 to april 06 that I havent been able to find info on, but I did read an article that said there were 4 arrests during that time.<br/><br/>So what are we looking at? 26 players? Way to go ThugU. http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20050526/football/2145095.html

That link takes you through may 2005.
There are 19 incidents there involving 20 players. Not all are arrests though

Then theres Henton Sept – 07
Alex Boone – April 06

Theres a dead period from may 05 to april 06 that I havent been able to find info on, but I did read an article that said there were 4 arrests during that time.

So what are we looking at? 26 players? Way to go ThugU.

]]> By: Westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1145 Westy81585 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:20:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1145 You're right, they shouldn't have to take plea bargains. But his football career was on hold. As long as he was indicted (that's when they charge you before actually taking you to court right?) JT said he wouldn't play a down of football for OSU. The prosecutor and the courts told him he wouldn't even get to trial until this spring (quick and fair my ass). So even if he was completely innocent, he wouldn't play any football til the matter was settled. He wanted to play, so he took the plea bargain and settled it instantly. You’re right, they shouldn’t have to take plea bargains. But his football career was on hold. As long as he was indicted (that’s when they charge you before actually taking you to court right?) JT said he wouldn’t play a down of football for OSU. The prosecutor and the courts told him he wouldn’t even get to trial until this spring (quick and fair my ass). So even if he was completely innocent, he wouldn’t play any football til the matter was settled. He wanted to play, so he took the plea bargain and settled it instantly.

]]> By: Tim http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1144 Tim Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:21:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1144 People who are "falsely accused" of things don't have to accept plea agreements.<br/><br/>Not going out of my way to criticize OSU here, just the dumb thing that the previous commenter said. People who are “falsely accused” of things don’t have to accept plea agreements.

Not going out of my way to criticize OSU here, just the dumb thing that the previous commenter said.

]]> By: westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1143 westy81585 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:16:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1143 Oh and for the record, while Henton was being falsely accused of solicitation, he was not allowed to play in any games. He didn't play one down this entire season, largely because JT said he couldn't for 8 games (before Henton finally sucked it up and took a plea bargain). Oh and for the record, while Henton was being falsely accused of solicitation, he was not allowed to play in any games. He didn’t play one down this entire season, largely because JT said he couldn’t for 8 games (before Henton finally sucked it up and took a plea bargain).

]]> By: westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1142 westy81585 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:13:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1142 Ok dumb ass, FIRST OFF. Troy Smith was suspended for accepting some sports apparel from a booster, that totaled around $200. He DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A JOB while he was on campus. and 20+ arrests? Are you retarded? IF we had that many arrests it would be ALL OVER THE NEWS. We get villainized on ESPN for shit that didn't even happen, if you had 20+ proven arrests, we would be Thug U, not Miami. <br/><br/>OSU has had ONE arrest in the last year too ya idiot. I know, I watch this stuff. It was Henton who got BULLSHITTED by an undercover. I saw the video the police made of it. The lady flagged him down, near campus, and goes "where's the party?" He answered "what?" Then she made an offer for sex, and he drove away. Only to be pulled over down the street and arrested for solicitation. People down here will attest to Columbus PD being second only to the cops in New Orleans in jack-assery. <br/><br/>The only reason he didn't contest it at all, is because JT told him you wont' play while this is going on, even if you end up being innocent. <br/><br/>The only "cheat" you could pull in the ENTIRE JT era, is MC. And even there, the football program as a whole was found completely innocent. <br/><br/>You have the f*cking unfab 5 to your credit. hmmm, who's cheating now? Ok dumb ass, FIRST OFF. Troy Smith was suspended for accepting some sports apparel from a booster, that totaled around $200. He DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A JOB while he was on campus. and 20+ arrests? Are you retarded? IF we had that many arrests it would be ALL OVER THE NEWS. We get villainized on ESPN for shit that didn’t even happen, if you had 20+ proven arrests, we would be Thug U, not Miami.

OSU has had ONE arrest in the last year too ya idiot. I know, I watch this stuff. It was Henton who got BULLSHITTED by an undercover. I saw the video the police made of it. The lady flagged him down, near campus, and goes “where’s the party?” He answered “what?” Then she made an offer for sex, and he drove away. Only to be pulled over down the street and arrested for solicitation. People down here will attest to Columbus PD being second only to the cops in New Orleans in jack-assery.

The only reason he didn’t contest it at all, is because JT told him you wont’ play while this is going on, even if you end up being innocent.

The only “cheat” you could pull in the ENTIRE JT era, is MC. And even there, the football program as a whole was found completely innocent.

You have the f*cking unfab 5 to your credit. hmmm, who’s cheating now?

]]> By: Mike http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1141 Mike Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:38:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1141 westy, the thing is, you haven't "put us in our place", and because you, or nobody else could prove in some way that this was not a recruiting violation, I will believe it is. Granted, this is really really minor, but everyone knows there are violations at OSU. Hell, the whole Troy Smith being paid for a job he never showed up to thing a few years ago. Ive known that went on way before that. One of my high school classmates went to OSU and played linebacker. He used to laugh about his "job" that all he had to do during a day was show up, punch in, go home, and show up again to punch out. Its amazing the NCAA hasn't come calling yet. I mean please, 20+ arrests in Tressels first 5 years as coach? Do you realize that over that time, you were the most arrested team in all of college footabll? That even beats Miami. Turn your blind eye, and blind loyalty, sooner or later this is gonna come around and bite you.<br/><br/>You can talk PacMan and Chris Henry all you want about RR. Fact is, neither of the EVER GOT ARRESTED FOR ANYTHING while playing for him. I will say Tressel has made great strides in keeping his thugs under controll. Theres only been like 4 arrests in the last year and a half. Keep in mind though, your backup quarterback (if Pryor doesnt come) offered an undercover cop $20 to have sex with him. That conduct got him booted from the team for less that 7 days.<br/><br/>Your school cheats. Plain and simple. Get off your high horse. westy, the thing is, you haven’t “put us in our place”, and because you, or nobody else could prove in some way that this was not a recruiting violation, I will believe it is. Granted, this is really really minor, but everyone knows there are violations at OSU. Hell, the whole Troy Smith being paid for a job he never showed up to thing a few years ago. Ive known that went on way before that. One of my high school classmates went to OSU and played linebacker. He used to laugh about his “job” that all he had to do during a day was show up, punch in, go home, and show up again to punch out. Its amazing the NCAA hasn’t come calling yet. I mean please, 20+ arrests in Tressels first 5 years as coach? Do you realize that over that time, you were the most arrested team in all of college footabll? That even beats Miami. Turn your blind eye, and blind loyalty, sooner or later this is gonna come around and bite you.

You can talk PacMan and Chris Henry all you want about RR. Fact is, neither of the EVER GOT ARRESTED FOR ANYTHING while playing for him. I will say Tressel has made great strides in keeping his thugs under controll. Theres only been like 4 arrests in the last year and a half. Keep in mind though, your backup quarterback (if Pryor doesnt come) offered an undercover cop $20 to have sex with him. That conduct got him booted from the team for less that 7 days.

Your school cheats. Plain and simple. Get off your high horse.

]]> By: westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1140 westy81585 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:02:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1140 Because I hate scUM. I hate everything to do with it. And I will jump at any opportunity to belittle, make fun of, ridicule, or in any other way put it in a negative light. That includes putting you retards in your place about frivolous attempts to belittle the greatest university in the world (tOSU). Where other OSU fans might try to find common ground with you, I say go to hell. I am the middle finger in the hand that is OSU, and frankly, you can go to hell. Because I hate scUM. I hate everything to do with it. And I will jump at any opportunity to belittle, make fun of, ridicule, or in any other way put it in a negative light. That includes putting you retards in your place about frivolous attempts to belittle the greatest university in the world (tOSU). Where other OSU fans might try to find common ground with you, I say go to hell. I am the middle finger in the hand that is OSU, and frankly, you can go to hell.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1139 Anonymous Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:45:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1139 westy - Hey, here's an idea, bitch: Why don't you put Tressel's cock in your mouth so we don't have to hear from you anymore? If you're so sure that nothing wrong was being done, they why drag your uneducated ass to this board? Can't you you just verbally blow other OSU fans on your own boards?<br/><br/>Sincerely, <br/>Michigan fans everywhere westy – Hey, here’s an idea, bitch: Why don’t you put Tressel’s cock in your mouth so we don’t have to hear from you anymore? If you’re so sure that nothing wrong was being done, they why drag your uneducated ass to this board? Can’t you you just verbally blow other OSU fans on your own boards?

Sincerely,
Michigan fans everywhere

]]> By: westy81585 http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1138 westy81585 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:07:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1138 Hey here's an idea, why don't all of you stop being whiny bitches? Whaa whaaa, RR called people when he wasn't supposed to, whaaaa some OSU recruits went and saw their buddy Pryor play bball...whaaaaaaaaaaaaa...<br/><br/>You're worse than that bitch who complained that the McDonalds coffee was hot when she poored it in her lap. NO SHIT!<br/><br/>RR calling those recruits made no difference in their recruiting (other than it just being a dick move because he hadn't even told his team yet).<br/><br/>The OSU recruits going to see their buddy (and future team-mate) play bball, is no crime. Shit he's known Sweat since they were like 7. He's become great friends with Brewster, and he's about to be playing football with Shugarts. If that's a crime, then the NCAA can go to hell. Hey here’s an idea, why don’t all of you stop being whiny bitches? Whaa whaaa, RR called people when he wasn’t supposed to, whaaaa some OSU recruits went and saw their buddy Pryor play bball…whaaaaaaaaaaaaa…

You’re worse than that bitch who complained that the McDonalds coffee was hot when she poored it in her lap. NO SHIT!

RR calling those recruits made no difference in their recruiting (other than it just being a dick move because he hadn’t even told his team yet).

The OSU recruits going to see their buddy (and future team-mate) play bball, is no crime. Shit he’s known Sweat since they were like 7. He’s become great friends with Brewster, and he’s about to be playing football with Shugarts. If that’s a crime, then the NCAA can go to hell.

]]> By: Mike http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1137 Mike Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:52:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1137 The quiet period is one call per week, per recruit. No violation. Was RR morally or ethicly wrong, maybe. But, no violation. The quiet period is one call per week, per recruit. No violation. Was RR morally or ethicly wrong, maybe. But, no violation.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1136 Anonymous Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:41:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1136 Ok, I'm being lazy and don't want to research it anymore but lets say your right. The coach is allowed 1 phone call per week. RR's phone records show "at least" 2 calls to UM recruits on the night of Dec. 16th. Even if what your saying is right, didn't he still violate the rules? Ok, I’m being lazy and don’t want to research it anymore but lets say your right. The coach is allowed 1 phone call per week. RR’s phone records show “at least” 2 calls to UM recruits on the night of Dec. 16th. Even if what your saying is right, didn’t he still violate the rules?

]]> By: Tim http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1135 Tim Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:37:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1135 Coaches are allowed one phone call per week, even in a quiet period. Your link relates to governing on- and off-campus visits and evaluation. Coaches are allowed one phone call per week, even in a quiet period. Your link relates to governing on- and off-campus visits and evaluation.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1134 Anonymous Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:34:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1134 OK Tim, was Dec. 16th 2007 during the NCAA's Quiet Period or not?<br/><br/>What don't I understand? OK Tim, was Dec. 16th 2007 during the NCAA’s Quiet Period or not?

What don’t I understand?

]]> By: Tim http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1133 Tim Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:29:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1133 Seeing the utter inability of OSU fans to understand what is and isn't a rules violation, even with the rules right in front of them, I now understand why they don't think OSU has broken any rules here. Seeing the utter inability of OSU fans to understand what is and isn’t a rules violation, even with the rules right in front of them, I now understand why they don’t think OSU has broken any rules here.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2008/01/recruiting-gone-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1132 Anonymous Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:21:00 +0000 http://panel1382.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/recruiting-gone-crazy/#comment-1132 NCAA Recruiting Calendar<br/><br/>http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2007-08/DI_Football NCAA Recruiting Calendar

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2007-08/DI_Football

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